myself turned to him and say thank you. thanks. thanks for the chance. thanks for the chance to continue to serve. so folks, i raise my glass to a man who never, never, never operates out of fear, only operates out of confidence. i'm toasting you, chuck. [laughter] and the guy who i plan on working with you. canker rid of me, man. remember, i'm still part of the senate. god bless you, chuck. lamar, you have a slow. [laughter] ..

>> i've had the privilege to work on a close basis with president obama. i watched him, the most difficult challenges that a

person could face. i watched him do this with brilliance, with patience, and with courage, wisdom, and kindness. for which i have learned a great deal. so, mr. president, i toast and pray for you, your wonderful family, and our great country. four more successful years, barack obama. [inaudible conversations]

>> michelle and the speaker of the house came to a meeting of the minds that i may be delaying the proceedings too much. i'm just going to be extraordinarily brief and say thank you. to my vice president, who has not only been an extraordinary partner, but an extraordinary friend, and to dr. joe biden who has partnered with my wife with an extraordinary generosity on behalf of our men and women in uniform, to the entire cab innocent that's here, i'm grateful to you. some of you are staying, and some of you are leaving, but i know the extraordinary

sacrifices that you and my team have made to try to advance the cause of progress in this country, and i'm always going to be grateful to you for that. to the speaker of the house and nap sigh -- nancy pelosi to democratic leader harry reid as well as republican leader mitch mcconnell, and to all the congressional leaders and all the members of congress who are here. i recognize that democracy's not always easy, and i recognize there are profound differences in this world, but i just want to say thank you for your service, and i want to thank your families for their service because regardless of our political persuasions and perspectives, i know that all of us serve because we believe that we can make america for future generations, and i'm confident

that we can agent in this moment in a way that makes a difference for our children and our children's children. i know that former president carter, president clinton, they understand the irony of the presidential office which is the longer you are there, the more humble you become and the more mindful you are that it is beyond your poor powers individually to move this great country. you can only do it because you have extraordinary partners and a spirit of good will, and most of all because of the strength and resilience and fundamental goodness of the american people, and so i would like to join all of you, not just in toasting the work others have done to create

a special day for us, but i want to thank each and every one of you for not only your service in the past, but a service in the future as well, and i would like to offer one last toast, and that is to my extraordinary wife, michelle. there is controversy about equality of the president, no controversy about the quality of our first lady. [applause] cheers. thank you, everybody. god bless you. god bless america. [inaudible conversations] >> okay, now that everyone's standing, you can remain standing because it's my privilege to enter deuce his imminence, archbishop to deliver the benediction.

>> thank you for the extraordinary and unique honor to over the benediction. it's the greatest hop nor in my life. let us pray as we prepare to go forth in peace, confident in america's bright future. in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. oh, god of all, we give thanks to you and praise you on this day as did our first president op the day of his inaugust ration for we, too, resort once more to the benign parent of the human race in humble sub yes

cation in the words the president washington. your gracious favor and devine blessings upon these united states of america, our president, barack obama, and vice president joseph biden as a second term of their sacred responsibilities in the highest office of our country. bless, preserve, and keep them and their families safe and healthy together with all who serve our nation's, especially in the congress, the judiciary, and the armed forces, here and everywhere who heroically and

sack -- sacrifice for the life of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. father, may we ever abide in this land of opportunity and freedom in perfect tranquility, faithful to our foundations and ever more prosperous, just e quitble society for all our citizens, and may we always share our faith and hope for the future with the whole world through your define and gracious love. amen. >> thank you.

>> okay, please be seated for a moment. my pleasure, arch bishop. thank you. well, i think everyone would agree there's been a wonderful inaugust grail ceremony, a delicious lunch, and it's now time to head to the next happy stop, the presidential parade. like many of you, i marched in hundreds, but as we optimistically step into the next page of american history, under the leadership of president obama, i have a feeling this one's going to be something truly special so thank you for being here, god bless you all, god bless america. [applause]

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>> this is your chance to really show your appreciation for the president of the united states, barack obama and the first lady, michelle obama as well as the vice president of the united states, joe biden and dr. jill biden. on their way to the dispersing area on 17th street. [inaudible conversations] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause]

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washington, d.c., pennsylvania avenue the main street. [cheers and applause] ♪ glnches ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> let me begin by just saying

you all dressed up pretty nice. [cheers and applause] i hope everybody is having a wonderful time. now, those of you who are in uniform, you look outstanding. your dates do look better, though. i just wanted to point that out. i'm not going to give a long speech, but i really want to do is come down and express the extraordinary gratitude, not just of me as your commander in chief, but more importantly, to thank all the american people. i want to start by thanks some of our outstanding leaders who are here, our host, our senior enlisted advisers from all five branches of our military.

[cheers and applause] the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, marty dempsey, who promised to sing sometime tonight so you should hold him to it. [cheers and applause] the vice chairman and all our outstanding members of the joint chiefs, our secretary of veterans affairs and vietnam vet ran -- veteran here is here. [cheers and applause] we're honored to be joined by some truly extraordinary americans. our wounded warriors who inspire us with their incredible strength and resolve. [cheers and applause] our enlisted men and women and junior officers, the backbone of our military. [cheers and applause] our amazing military families.

[cheers and applause] including the families of the fallen. [cheers and applause] our gold star families, we will stand with you always. the members of the ledge tear tuskgeegee airmen in the house, and the recipients of the nation's highest military decoration, the medal of honor, we are honored by your presence. [cheers and applause] now, today, we experienced the majesty of our democracy, a ritual only possible in a form of government that is of and by and for the people, a day made possible because there are patriots like each and every one of you who defend our freedom every single day. [cheers and applause]

so this whole party is just another way to say something we can never say enough. thank you, thank you for volunteering, thank you for stepping up, and thank you for keeping us strong, for always making us proud. i have no greater honoring that been your commander in chief [cheers and applause] it's because of you that with hon your we're able to end the war in iraq, because of you that we delivered justice to bin laden. [cheers and applause] because of you that it's even possible to give afghans a chance to determine their own destiny. we are going forward and will keep our military the findest fighting force that the world's ever known.

now, tonight, we're also joined by some of our service members in afghanistan. they can't see us, but we can see them on this monitor. who we got there? general, are you there? >> sir, good evening, mr. president, congratulations on your inauguration, it's major general, commander regional south, honored to be able to join you there this evening. sir, i'm joined tonight by fantastic airmen and officers and soldiers serving here in kandahar. [cheers and applause] >> congratulations president, first class orlando jackson, louisiana, brigade division, i congratulate you on a job well done.

>> mr. president, sergeant robert, superintendent, 807 expedition their air support squadron from detroit, michigan -- [cheers and applause] go tigers. >> good evening, mr. president, i'm sergeant first class, david wood from monument, colorado, third infantry division, task force light horse. thank you for having us at your party. congratulations. >> good evens, mr. president, mass sergeant james on the operation superintendent 807 squadron and the world's greatest air force -- [cheers and applause] congratulations, have a lessed -- blessed evening. >> mr. president, honored to join you tonight, and we got one more thing for all of you there. [inaudible] >> well, listen, to all of you

who are there, we know it's tough being away from your families. we know the incredible sacrifices and challenges that you meet every single day, but i can tell youssef mejri -- that you have a room full of patriots here, and although i got to admit that they are a little spiffied upright now -- up right now, their heart and soul, dedication, sense of duty is at one with everything single one of the folks who are in kandahar right now, and i want you to know that, you know, when i was standing on the steps of the capitol today looking out over close to a million people, the single biggest cheer that i always get, and today was no

different in my inauguration, was when i spoke about the extraordinary men and women in uniform to preserve our freedom and keep our country strong. so -- [cheers and applause] to know that every single day we are thinking of you, we're going to make sure that you got the equipment, the strategy, and the mission that allows you to succeed and keep our country safe to know that we are going to be looking after and thinking about your families every single day, and that when you get back home, you're going to be greeted by a grateful nation and that you will be on our mind tonight and every single night until our mission in afghanistan is complete. can everybody please give our comrades in arms a huge round of applause. [cheers and applause]

please, all of you give our very best to your families back home because i know it's just as tough, if not tougher for them to see you in harm's way and away from the family. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. [cheers and applause] thank you. now, there's one last thing i've got to do. i've got a date with me here. [cheers and applause] she inspires me every day. she makes me a better man an a better president -- [cheers and applause] the fact that she is so devoted to taking care of our troops and our military families is just

one more sign of her extraordinary love and grace and strength. i'm just lucky to have her. [cheers and applause] i said today at the lunch over at the congress that some may dispute the quality of our president, but nobody disputed the quality of our first lady. [cheers and applause] ladies and gentlemen, my better half and my dance partner -- [cheers and applause] michelle obama. [cheers and applause] >> and now, please welcome grahmmy and academy award winner, jennifer hudson. ♪

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>> but i think it's all an evolutionary process. you grow into this role, and my sense is that you never get comfortable if you're always pushing for change and growth, not just in yourself, but in the issues that you care about. you're never done so there's never a point in time where you feel like, there, i'm now here, and i can do this the same way all the time. it's always changing. it changes begin the state of the issues of the country, and you never know what those are going to be from one day to the next so you have to be flexible

and fluid and open to evolve. >> the first ladies, their private and public lives, c-span's teaming up with the white house's historical association for the first of its kind original series for television, first ladies, influence and image, airing over two seasons. season one begins president's day at 9 p.m. eastern and pacific on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> millionaire investor and republican foster freeze spoke to reporters about the 2012 elections and the future of the republican party. he backed rick santorum in the presidential race. this hour long event in washington, d.c. was hosted by the christian science monitor. >> okay, here we go. i'm dave cook from the monitor. thanks for coming. our guest this morning is foster, visiting our fair city from his home in jackson,

wyoming, accompanied by one of his advisers, matthew taylor. he was born in rice lake, wisconsin and earned his degree in business administration at the university of wisconsin where he met his wife, lynn. he served two years as an army intelligence officer, and then he founded freeze associates, an investment firm whose funds were wildly successful. he sold a controlling interest in the firm in 2001, but remains as chairman of freeze sorts and director of randy funds, and in recent years, focused on philanthropy and political activism including being the largest donor to senator santorum's 2012 political campaign. all of that, hunting the occasional 14-foot crocodile in tans tanzania -- i'm not making that up, wrap up the bigraphical part of the program. as always, on the record here. please no live blocking or tweeting, in short, no filing of

any kind with the breakfast underway, no embargo when the breakfast is over other than c-span will not use video of the session for at least two hours after the breakfast ends. if you want to ask a question, do the traditional thing and send me a subtle, non-threatening signal, and i'll call on one and all. now for brief opening comments and questions from around the table. thank you for copping, sir. great to have you. >> delighted to be here. on december 25th, i was unknown with homes in jackson home and wilmington, delaware and all the people who i had money to was it. after being in iowa, i met many of you, an impressive experience because i had a whole new respect for the media that i didn't have before because i was treated politely and kindly and was not distorted only with one or two exceptions.

my respect for the media has grown dramatically. >> i think we can change that this morning. [laughter] >> what matthew and i are up to now is realizing that in the last year and a half, we've had an unusual amount of deviciveness and negativity interjected into the society because that's how campaigns work. the professional show that a negative campaign is five times more successful than a positive campaign i'm told. now, how do we bring our country back together, a housed against itself cannot stand, a great quote abraham lincoln used in scripture, and taking people on the left and right and bring them together with their political views, and then how can we have projects we all agree on? it could be increasing the ease for international adoptions, providing fresh water in africa or haiti, could be mobile medical units in tulsa. there's a group there called in his image, serving 7,000 people last year who didn't have

insurance. i think the excitement going forward for the country is that all of us need to help president obama create his legacy which i'm sure he does not want to go down as the president bankrupts america. all of us around the table, regardless of political stripes have a great vested interest in helping him make sure that does not happen, and, of course, the role all of us can play in deciding what do we want to spend our government money on and be an influence to have our voices heard as do we really want to send 55 million dollars to i understand knee sha to help -- indonesia to help improve the infant mortality rate in indonesia when we have babies here who could benefit from that same expenditure. that's enough said. we're delighted to be a part of the american dream. i came out of the army with $800 of accumulative leave pay, and the lord blessed that into $700

million, and that comes from three things, the workers god put in my life, 70 people to help pick stock and interact with clients, and secondly, a hospitable government environment. you had a taxation and a regulatory environment which allowed me to prosper with the fcc making sure the rules were followed, and it encouraged entrepreneurship, and people were respected for the fact that they added to the economy, and now that i have wealth, i can do a lot more to help poor people than i could when i didn't have wealth. my wife scrubbedded the floors sewed clothes, and cut my hair, but now we are blessed by the american dream, and i want to keep it alive for others. the third role is the entrepreneur, the role i played. entrepreneur, hospitable governmental environment, and the workers are what create

success in america. we have to keep the three legs of the stool strong and vibrant. >> thank you for the opening statement. i'll ask one or two, and then we'll go around the table. especially interested to hear you talk about obama create the legacy. earlier this week, as you probably know, speaker boehner spoke on society saying the obama administration wants to, quote, annihilate the republican party, and shove it in, quote, the dust pan of history. do you agree with that interpretation of obama's inaugural address? >> i believe that republicans and democrats both have the design to try to become dominant, and so the republicans would certainly like to decrease the power of the democratic party and the democratic party would like to decrease the power of the republican party. that's what politics works, and maybe speaker boehner, because he gets bossed around by fellow republicans, maybe he's a little sensitive to those comments.

>> let me ask you about your role, talking about helping create a legacy. you've been involved in philanthropy. do you have plans for 2014 congressional cycle, sir? >> well, no i'm not running if that's what you mean. [laughter] >> i mean -- >> [inaudible] >> take a filing break now. >> i very, very much want to be involved in helping those senators and congressmen and women who can embrace those special values that made america great, everyone knows why we are great because of the free markets. if you look at other countries around the world, no one has ever come close to achieving the kind of vibrancy and wealth that we have. i mean, the steve jobs, the zuckebergs, i want to find congressmen and women who can foster that environment and i will do everything i can to get them elected. yes, i will be involved in the

upcoming election. >> after the -- after your adventure with mr. santorum, you talked about being active, but in a way that was less traceable, doing it through c-4s. is that how you see doing whatever you plan to do during the congressional cycle in 2014 #, or do you see -- how do you see being a force? >> the idea of keeping a low profile, and i didn't realize all the high reporters would show up at this breakfast. i thought it would be a handful. the notoriety is mixed emotions for me, but i believe i can be more of a help in ways that bring people together. my success did not come from tearing down other people. to succeed in business, be an encourager, a cheerleader, and when people fall down because they make a mistake, help them realize that's the steppingstone

to the next success and failure's something that we need to embrace. one of my ax yums is perfectionism ab hores error, tries to eradicate it and destroy it. excellence embraces error and builds on it and transforms it. with an analyst making a bad call, i try to convince him to get out of his funk that he's now a better researcher than he was before the mistake. none of us grow as people with things go well, but grow as people when we go through the bumps of life, and so i think going forward in the next year, i'm 72 so next eight years of my life are probably the most important of my life, and i want to make sure i can be an encourager and bring people together. that's why this little pamphlet is left right, left right, forward mar. it's an opportunity to bring people together on things we can all agree on where we strip away

the personalities involved. you know, who is against trying to make adoptions more easy? my friend is one example. one end burning of the kids who want out of the orphanage, and other families who would love to have children. what the russians have done recently to curve that, but they are against international adoptions. that's down 50% or 60% in the last five years. mary, who i believe has -- as a democrat does not embrace my republican perspectives, so the two of us revealed our preview in a film called "stuck," and we teamed up to increase international adoptions. in tulsa, as i mention often, there's a group there that serves 7,000 people, and those are things that we all can do to help poor people without health

care and who don't have to wait for the government to show up. the programs have been going on seven to eight years before the current affordable care act. >> matt of the globe. >> talk about the deviciveness in politics and in the country and part of that fueled by the money and the advertising, and, i mean, do you have thoughts on that as someone who puts fuel into a campaign? i mean, did you have conversations? >> well, as you know, the super pacs that's sensitive legally in terms of interaction, and so i was very careful not to give -- in fact, the ads the super pac ran, i never saw. i told the fellow running it, i go not want to run negative ads, and the ads that were run pointed out romney's positions, but i hope you agree they were not as devicive as other ads might have been. >> next to aaron mcpike. aaron? >> yeah, wonder if you can

assess where super pacs over the last few years are successful and where they failed because, you know, as i read it, yours and the super pac that helped newt gingrich kept candidates alive in the primaries, but thin in the general election, the republicans super pacs didn't do what they were supposedded to do necessarily. i mean, spent a lot of money and put a lot of ads on the air, but the president's super pac had far less money and they were able to use negative research on mitt romney, and, of course, the president won. going into the next cycle, you know, where do you think it can be most useful? >> keep in mind, erin, super pacs are just another source that george soros poured in $20 million to beat george bush. i'm not a political junkie, but i think it's not so much how much money there was and who had it, but who used it more

cleverly. i'm in absolute awe of the democrats' ability to campaign and to organize. i was on a phone bank in nevada dialing up a fellow, and i was not sure i would pronounce his name right, and who am i, a white guy from wyoming, trying to convince this fellow to vote for romney, when obama had people in their neighborhood having dinners and barbecues telling him for the last four years for president obama to keep offices open and with paid people, paid staff for the last four years was brilliant. the republicans have an idea, wow, jeez, and election coming up. how much do you hear on the airways of promoting senators? nothing. it's once said democrats that it's a blood sport, and for republicans it's a hobby. that's why the democrats run the government and the republicans run the museums. [laughter] >> michael?

>> rick santorum in the primaries and after the election criticized romney for not even a governing vision, and also for maybe not being somebody who could understand the common person. that was his pitch in the primary and criticism of romney after romney lost. i'm wondering what your perspective is on the republican party's vision in the republican party's image and for of a pr problem in your perspective or policy changes, some of which rick santorum addressed. >> i think i wouldn't put that observation on rick santorum's shouldiers, but on a survey, i don't know who did it. three questions, is the candidate confident? does he have a good program for the future? the third question, you probably remember what the poll was, and romney won all three, but the fourth question was does he care

for someone like me, and 81% said no. i've had a half hour one-on-one with romney in jackson. he's witty, vivacious, and a twinkle in his eye. i have a huge amount of respect for romney as a person and individual. the vision the republican party has is there, just how do we articulate it. remember that the american people gave the republicans a mandate in the last election, and you look up and say, what do you mean by that when you lost the presidency? remember, we picked up three nor legislators. the amount of republicans that have not taken over state legislatures increased by, matthew, was it colorado, north carolina, wisconsin -- i don't know what they were, there's three, so we're now up to 17 -- sorry, a total gain of 17 state legislatures since 2010 moved from the democratic column to the republican column. since 2010.

that's 17 additional states shifted. i believe the american people have begin republicans a map date -- mandate that we want to have fiscal responsibility, limited government, and we want a government that respects the constitution. i believe that that's a message that has come out in subsequent elections and that got masked by the fact on a presidential level the capability and confidence and power of the democratic organization president obama put together overshadowed that. we have 30 republican governors that happens to be, if the math is right, close to 60%. that's rounded off. >> i should mention too anybody looking for one after the session, katelyn will send you head shots taken by the photographer during the breakfast. >> [inaudible] even if you talk, don't like the

notoriety, is there a chance there's a freeze funded super pac in 2014 to help campaigns, and also in 2016. >> well, whether it's a super pac or not, i'm blessed with wealth, and i believe i have a responsibility to use it properly, and i think getting the correct people in office who believe in america, believe in the american dream so there can be more steve jobs and more mark zuckerbergs. they talk about the disperty of income, but we need greater economic mobility. steve jobs, as you know, lived in a car. my background, my wife cut my hair, had $800, a year before we ordered in a pizza, much less go out to a restaurant. the bottom people are always changing, and the people out of the bottom level go up, but i asked people if bill gates'

income drops from $20 million to $10 million, in half, and everybody's income went from $100,000 to $90,000, how does that help anybody? the gap between rich and poor is narrowed dramatically, but does it help anybody? cuts the amount of taxes that gates sends to the federal government to control the meat inspectors and all the wonderful things the government does for us, and so you have to, i think, take cognizance of why the country is great. it's because of the wealth. you can't defeat poverty if you don't create wealth. ..

santorum served 14 -- 16 years in congress. did he ever once hisser anything about banning contraceptives? yet, somehow that message was -- it took advantage of all the low-information women voters who just follow joy behar and have no idea that rick santorum and mother teresa believes that contraception is against the catholic teaching. i'm told only 20% of the catholics respect that teaching,

but for those who do, it used to be in my time you respected people's religious beliefs you didn't ridicule them or demonize them. i think the fact the democrats were successful -- getting back to negativity -- where was the war on women. they tried to convince that somehow santorum was going to do this and the republicans are against contraception. i think i even -- hugh hefner said, this guy wants to reverse the sexual revolution. i have four kids. they're two years apart, and con there sing has been -- contraception has been very, very good to me. my family -- it's two years apart. so how the democrats got away with this i think is another indication of a flaw of the republicans. no one confronted that. no one confronted that and said, this is a boldfaced demagoguery, but the women out there, they were, i guess -- what's the

proper word i want to use -- they were seduced that this is a war on women, and i'm also told that president obama and -- i haven't checked this out so maybe shouldn't say it, but apparently the white house doesn't pay women as much as they've paid men. i've been suspect of those statistics because maybe they're different jobs. >> i guess i wonder you were one of the big financial players. was the money worth it that you spent? and what did you get for it and what did you learn from the experience how to do it next time. >> very good question, jane. it was absolutely worth it. i allowed rick santorum to express views and idea the american people wanted to hear and needed to hear that never would have been articulated. so when i first was exposed --

said meet jacksonville billion your foster freeze who bought iowa or santorum was the headline. forgetting he went to all the pizza huts and the town meetings. i basically got a little grief from my wife. i've been signing all these tax returns, where is this billionaire stuff? i believe when i was criticized for rich people stealing democracy from the little guys in a superpac. other people said i increased democracy because i allowed a person to run who would have had a less chance to run. so when i travel, get so many thank yous from people who maybe were making 30, 4 , 50,000 or whatever, and said, i couldn't have helped that much, but thank you very much for what you did to promote his candidacy. i want to do it in the future. i love this country. it's been good to me and good to the world. if you remember getting on a commercial airline, they say if the oxygen mask deploy, put it

on yourself first and then put it on your kids. we have to think about that. our nation has the opportunity to be the shining city on the hill. we have to take care of our only financial orders first. our own social problems, and then we can be a better influence around the world where people are craving for the kind of freedom we have, willing to cross a river to get this. not filled with 14-foot crocs but still dangerous deals. >> it didn't result in taking back the white house. is there any -- did you learn anything technically about what to do next time? >> yes. i believe -- >> actually take the top job? >> if i could influence the party hierarchy, which i can't -- keep in mine, i'm sort of a neofight in this area.

i was president of my fraternity and that was major event. which during my tenure, we had a jewish member. in those days we had to fight a lot of wars you don't have to fight these days. >> you held every office at your high school. >> yes. i was valedictorian, captain of the football team and basketball team, all those things that are possible when when you only have 16 kids in your class. >> what i had did you learn? >> i would basically have more on the ground activity. i would try to emulate what he did. have-if not paid people, volunteers in each neighborhood saying, let's find out what truth is. when president obama says, on national tv, that this government proposal we have is just one more choice for healthcare, and you can keep your private insurance you want it, at the time someone should have pointed out, wait a minute,

if people don't have any choice what happens to their healthcare, their employer will decide. 200 million people have healthcare taken through employer paid insurance? so what choice do you and i if if we're working for dupont, what happens to our choices? now you know it costs a thousand per worker to insure a worker with health care and the government fine if you don't follow it is $2,000. so it's a perfect incentive to move more people off private insurance and health and human services as sebelius said, the private healthcare insurance industry is in a death spiral. of course they're in a death spiral. that the intention. if you eliminate then it's easier to move to singing-payer system which president obama has said, this is his goal and might take five, seven, eight, ten years. >> we're going next to ken and then alex and robert and then

alicia, tom, chris, and lauren fox toned. >> i have to be out of here by 1:00. >> we will have a lovely lunch for you. >> i wanted to ask about the -- follow up on jane's question. clearly -- . [inaudible] >> if you think that the bitter nature of the clamor and -- [inaudible] >> anything the republicans can do to prevent such bitter superpac funded primaries in the future, and then anything you want to say about --

>> well, i think there's different points of view as to the primary process created more earned income. there's no way mitt romney could have gotten that much air time if it weren't for the debates and the fact it took place. so he had an opportunity to present his case and the more air time he got, the better. maybe the question is, did that effectiveness he was afforded, did he take advantage of it properly? and that's a whole different story. i don't think the length of the primary, even though i became quite weary of it as we all did, i don't think that's a number of helping or hurting. if anything the longer the primary know, opportunity the candidate has to articulate who he is and what he is about. so that i guess is probably how i would deal with that question. >> you wouldn't try to -- [inaudible]

>> i think we helped mitt romney. we helped define him, and the rick santorum ingredient, i think, caused mr. romney, mitt romney to understand some of the visions that rick articulated, which really caught fire. when heed go to these pizza huts in iowa. the whole idea that it's not necessarily about the economy. he got in trouble. he said i don't care about the unemployment rate. it's like a kid with a fief. you don't care about the fever, but you care about what is causing it. so this ties back to the cultural underpinnings of what do we really want to be as americans and the whole vision of, we're different than other countries. we want to have a country where we function on values values vae

rather than regulations. so rick santorum painted that picture, and as the campaign progressed -- i heard mitt paraphrase rick0s vision as to america is special because we have god-given rights and gods are rights cannot be given away, rights given by the government can be taken away instantly. i remember in a conversation in the reagan administration when they needed to cut expenses, and i think the conversation was, let's him nate paying for abortions. so the government gives the right, they can take it away, and i think rick articulated that, and so i think that the length of the primary, while frustratingly long issue think gave more air time, as i'm reiterating. one other thing don't understand is why does the republican party allow the media, who are -- particularly media folks who are not charitable to the republican

party, conduct the debates. i would have someone else be the moderator, and maybe have the debate where you have the candidates in a room and each one talks 10 or 15 minutes and you can have a discussion to understand more about what they believe or what they want, rather than all these sound bites, and particularly when one particular sound bite is expanded to say what he really didn't mean. so, i would change that whole debate process, to have more of discussion rather than the sound bite format, and conducted by people who are more impartial, certainly not the media. >> would you support rick santorum for president in 2016? >> rick santorum has so much potential and so much eagerness to serve our country. what i liked about rick saner santorum -- i have known him for 20 years. he truly, truly loves the

country, and in the discussions we had with karen and the family, his advise 'ers, he believed he had a message the country needed to hear, and i believe that message needs to be heard, and if you look at the challenge he had, he could never -- he was not allowed to come out of his social conservative box. the debate, he would say, ask me a question, ask me a question, and he would finally get the question, it was about social issues. people forget that rick santorum was ahead of the curve of almost every politician i know in the united states senate and congress, when he offered the iranian freedom and security act. the syrian accountability act. those were not just since things have percolateed in the arab spring. those were well in advance. he knows more about the interactions between mahmoud ahmadinejad and chavez than any of our politician. so in terms of who or enemy is and where the war is being fought, he was at the first one

to use the term islamo fascist. but he was told he can't use the term. in christianity we have people who handle snakes and speak in tongues and people who might show up on easter and christmas. that whole realm of christianity is the same in islam. the simon wiesenthal in l.a. -- received an award for holding a conference in indonesia that brought imams and survivors from the holocaust, and it was on the newspaper, if my friend ahmadinejad says the holocaust didn't exist, i call him a liar. so you can look at the friends of america who are muslims and you look at the enemy who are trying to take the united states and replace it with sharia law.

a young medical lieutenant who went to a conference and the imam gets up there and says that we have to take the word of god, the koran, and replace the constitution with it. he -- like the 27-year-old said, that's sedition, and anybody in this audience should leave. he was in uniform. so what we need to do in america is to find out who is our enemy? and know one has been able to articulate that until rick santorum did so. he completely understands the threat. we are at war. the algerian incident, the libyan incident, the cole bombing, this is not isolated incidents by kid with 17-year-old acne cases and think i'm going to blow somebody up. this is a concerted evident to take down america and if you look at the dallas holyland trial, i gave speech to 800 people. the speaker before me said, how many of you heard about the

dallas holy land trial where the muslim brotherhood was -- had a document said we want to replace the constitution with sharia law. eight hand went up. so i think the fact that on the national security front. rick santorum is superior to any candidate i know. secondly, he, at age 38 -- 38 -- his colleagued selected him to manage the welfare reform act on the floor of the senate. the first time you had a rollback of any federal entitlement. so i was impressed when first heard him speak 20 some years ago and developed a friendship and affinity, but then to see how his peers in the senate -- we was not an old dog in the senate and was elected the third most responsible position in leadership. so when we gave his acceptance speech in iowa and talked about as a young kid look neglect casket at his grandfather's big hands who dug coal, and allowed me as a grandson of a coal miner

to run for president, that's why he ignited so many people's enthusiasm. so, to answer your question, also more concisely, the answer is, yes. alex? >> excuse me. it sounds like you feel like the g.o.p.'s problem last year was mostly that of communication with voters. i'm wondering, is there any particular issue or part of the agenda you think should be -- curious about the -- feels like the country is headed in one direction and is more open and approving of it. is that an issue everybody in the up republican party -- it's a substantive issue they need to change? >> i'm in a position to probably be a little more sensitive to the gay community than some of my republicans. my brother-in-law is gay. i love him. i love his partner. my wife is chairman of the board of the national museum of

libraries and on the board of the national cowboy and well-heritage museum. so there's some gay folk wes enter act with, and they're people just like you and i, are we going to'emize them for being gay? i happen to be 30-pounds overweight. jesus had a big saying you break so much as one wall you brake all. so i'm not their judge people. i just know one thing. the greatest thing want to do in the eight years -- i hope i can live to be 80 and influential. we have to protect our country from sharia law. when ahmadinejad was asked about gays in iran, he said we don't have gays in iran. well, that's because they kill them. so i think what i am committed to is making sure that my friends that i love in the gay community, that i do everything i can to protect them from sharia law, and that is -- that's going to be challenge and

going to be challenge for all of us, because in england they now have 84 sharia courts, maybe more, and four or five years ago didn't have any. >> yes or no on gay marriage? do you think the republican party should support gay marriage? >> i don't believe the republican party should really force any of their members to have one feeling or the other. who is the guy that was -- the famous consultant to bush -- the guy that died -- thought he died of -- attwood. what he said there are 6% of the people prolife and 6% cho choice. so realize those people who offset each other, so spokesperson speak about the economy, gun control, whatever it is, and now we have seen -- this is a little bit off point in terms of abortion but it's

another social issue which ties in. if you look a number years back, seven or eight years ago, the nation was 57% prochoice, 43% prolife. now with the advent of science, we now, i'm told, have seen the ship where the nation is now 51% prolife. i personally witnessed, my wife and i gave a sonogram unit to the crisis pregnancy center and a young woman said i'll let you watch me be tested. so she begins to cry as she sees this little tiny creature this big, sucking its thumb, and she said, if my friend had seen this six weeks ago she never would have had an abortion. so i believe what makes the republicans difference than democrats -- the democrats seem to collectivize better. their spirit seems to be, nancy pelosi says vote for the bill, even though you haven't read it, they vote for it. republicans seem to be more individualistic.

i have been trying for, i swear, three years, to get governor haley barber, mcconnell, and boehner, get in front of the cabinet and say, here's our goop healthcare play. boehner says that's like herding cats. mcconnell says you think i can get them to agree? so run -- republicans are different and i believe the republican party should allow each candidate to say what he wants to say. what is disstress, we are moving in our country to maybe a state religion which says anybody who is -- who leaves homo ickes allity is biblically untrue is a pariah and fall back to the neanderthal days and we're forcing a religious belief on the catholics and muslims and all these religious groups who happen to believe that homosexuality is inappropriate. you should be able to believe what you want to believe but i don't think the government

should force a religion on to a nation of people where we have so held, cling to our idea of religious freedom. someone told me -- this is a high level person, heads up a think texas -- that george southerlies funded an organization that is going into churches to tape sermons for the fact that going forward -- i believe section 501(c)(3) but the bob jones university lost its tax exemption because they had a policy against interracial marriage, and that was against public policy. so what this section of the irs says, 501, if you are against public policy, your tax exemption will be gone. so the belief is that -- that's may sound con pierer toal -- they want to get this documentation that people are speaking against the gay marriage or gay rights or homosexuality, so that -- when it becomes public policy, all

these churches will lose their tax exemption. now, you're the ones can fine out if that's true. this is something i heard that -- you hear these things on the internet and half of them are -- i did hear -- i got a huge opportunity. i got a e-mail from nigeria where there's $50 million in an account for me and as soon as we get out of here, we can contact that guy and we'll be set. >> one question. when asked about gay rights -- sharia law -- i don't follow what you're saying. are you saying there's an expansion of sharia law to the united states that you're worried sunset. >> i would encourage you to get a documentary called the third jihad, moderated bay fellow who was a doctor in scottsdale, and

he -- when he was here, operatessed on or served congress men and supreme court justices, and he has highlighted the movement that the sharia law in the united states is -- now, i think the muslim population is 1% in the united states. but if you look at the dallas holy lean trial -- holy land trial, it explains in their word what their intention is, and sharia law -- the word sharia at one time meant the path, and this is apparently what the muslim belief that the right way to go. and then along the generations, as it's been described to me, is that man added the things where you caught people's hands off if you steal, if a woman brings disgrace to your family, 17-year-old and she somehow has had an affair with someone who is not a muslim.

you kill her. all that apparently has crept in subsequent to when mow ham mud actually spoke. muhammad, you remember, his first wife, was a merchant and led a battalion of troops. so some of the people we have been supporting to promote women's rights in the middle east, one woman who actually lives here in washington, dc, see if you can recall her name -- she was a program where she would go into egypt and rent a hotel and tell women how to get involved politically and economically, and authorities came in that's not islamic, we're going to close you down. she said wait a minute. mow ham mud's first wife was a merchant and led a bat tallon of troops so budget out of here -- so bug out of here. they've closed her down. the interview was right here in d.c., and so she is better to ask those questions than i am because this is just one of my interest levels. >> so the answer to your question is, iran, they kill

homosexuals. everybody knows that, right? anybody not know that? [inaudible] >> to me, as a republican -- i don't represent the republican party in any shape or form. i'm an antiestablishment guy. and so, therefore, my zeal is to make sure that my homosexual friends are protected from the fact they could be killed if we -- if they travel to certain countries where sharia law is in place. i want my brother-in-law and all my gay friends to be able to travel to iran to travel to iraq, to travel to afghanistan, without fear of losing their lives. [inaudible]

>> how much did you spend all together? at one point -- you might donate up to 501c. and -- >> i'll make it easy. you can ask any question you want and i can decide to answer any question i want. next question. >> mr. schlessinger. >> what's the issue of mandate, you said the g.o.p. -- president won re-election by four points. the delcrats picked up house seats and won the majority of votes cast in house elections. are you saying the g.o.p. doesn't -- are you -- are you suggesting -- you said that mandates because they have a -- [inaudible]

>> are you suggesting it shouldn't count as much in terms of -- >> what i'm saying is that if you look at the country as a whole, the country moved in the last ten years from 2010, we picked up 17 more state legislatures. that to me is a drift towards people who believe in the freer into price system, free markets, constitutional limitations, fiscal responsibility. the fact that we have 30 governors. now, when you talk about the victory and the numbers you quote, again, it's what numbers you want to use. obama apparently -- president obama won apparently by 350,000 votes in four key swing states. you take -- i think there's ohio, florida, -- in four states. a total of 350,000 votes may made the difference in winning

and losing you. can check those numbers out. they're out there. so to me 350,000 votes is not a huge mandate, even though the total numbers, which take into account a lot of the center cities, went for obama. so, my point is, as someone who believes in america and the sacrifices that our forefathers made -- some of these guys would have -- the revolution, they never saw their 16 kids again. their wives became sick, and the disruption that our freedom cost, and then the cost of maintaining freedom. maintaining freedom is every bit as hard as winning the freedom. and so we stand on the southerlies of all the generations before us, who fought wars to keep these things alive. and i've been told by people, look, you have led a great life. you have a lot of money. enjoy yourself.

why drew want to expose yourself and take the risk of being attacked and red called and demonized and destroyed by the left? why do you want to do that? it's because i look at my friends who had 19, 20-year-old kids put a rifle on their back and go to afghanistan and iraq to fight for my freedoms, and how can i sit back as someone who has the able to speak out. a lot of the people who like to say things can't because they got a job, they got a boss, and they're limited as to what they can say. so, that's maybe a long-winded answer. >> said the total numbers take into account the center cities. should those not been taken into account? >> yes. >> why? >> because the movement across at the country and the state luggers. right now the republicans have their tails between their legs and i'm saying there's no reason for that because the american people on balance, i believe, want free markets.

they do not want to have a system where there's more people riding the wagon than pulling the wagon. i believe the majority of the american people want to be wagon pullers. so tavis smiley and newt gingrich had a get together, newt gingrich is very taken with smiley's initiative to start this how do we create ontreppe trip knewship in center sits. you guy in the suburb, you can start also restaurant or landscaping company. anymore the center city need to be given those opportunities so they can have the opportunity to participate. so they've given an infrastructure to how do you start a sub shop, start a landscaping company. so the whole notion of what makes america great is because people want to build and create and inspire people and make everybody at every level successful. and that's why it is exciting to

be one of those 1%. i'm part of the 1%, and i have no -- i have no shame of about that because everybody dollar i have, every 100 milliondog, whatever i had, i treaded that for something that somebody else wanted. i took $100,000 portfolio of one move of my teachers and built it into a retirement nest egg he could health if i tack a $1,000 fee for that every pay my expenses and hi taxes, you wonder how much if have to buy any golf golf balls with? 2 $25. and the agony of having the responsibility where every day guy home and lose a quarter billion or gain a quarter billion. the stress of that, the stress it puts on our family, and it was exciting too be in the competitive arena, but to think that somehow i'm a villain for having done that is something that rick santorum didn't

believe in different classes. didn't like to talk about middle class. all of us have a vested interest. i as a wealthy person can do now more than i ever could when i was poor. when my wife was cutting my hair i didn't have chance to put in medical clinics or water purification. >> so what we want to does americans is make everybody successful. make the rich people richer, the poor people less poor and we all work together to encourage one another. if you look at my situation, if you tax me 10% more, am i going to sell my jet plane? no am i going to sell my beach houses? no. am i going to change my lifestyle? no. what does do it to me? it's just money that i no longer can give to these various causes i've been giving to. i'm not that generous that i'm going to give up my lifestyle when i don't have to but what i will give up is the acknowledge to give to these other causes that are dear to my heart because i can see the joy of

helping somebody else. >> alicia? >> 2016, have you had a chance to talk yet with some of the -- >> can you speak up. >> have you had a hans to talk with the republican conservatives, billionaires and multimillionaires who gave money this time? i ask because i've talked to some of them, and i think there is general concern -- they're the outsiders as you are, they're not the establishment -- their woulds such a push by santorum and others for conservative social issues to take the center stage, that ultimately cost mitt romney and the republicans the election. and nobody has mentioned you by name, but it's come up about santorum several times. so have you had a chance to talk to your fellow contributors and gotten their feedback on whether you may have pushed too hard on the far conservative social

issue candidates? >> well, that's kind of amusing, as i said earlier, who makes santorum in the social conservative? that was something from the people around him who wanted to keep him there and the democrats did a good job of pigeon holing him in that arena. if you look at president reagan? he won because he united the national security conservatives, united the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives. i don't believe that any republicans can win without igniting the social conservatives, and so i believe the fact that some people argue the fact that one of the reasons romney lost -- i don't want to get into quarterbacking monday morning -- one of the reasons he lost is because he didn't excite the social conservatives. i had i'ms from people who shade

they had millions of people on the list saying it's unbib lick cool vote for the letters of who evils. they considered romney's positions in the past, he supported $20 copay abortions in massachusetts, he ushered in gay they never forgave him for that. my point is, i think if we elect romney, you can have more opportunity to talk about the things you want to talk about and if president obama gets elected, good possibility we'll move like canada where you're taken off the air wave is if you mention certain biblical concepts that have been in place for hundreds of years. i just think that the social conservative message has to resonate because people -- they are the ones who are out there, who stuffed the ballots and the other people in the republican party are less intense, so i don't want to use the word social conservety. everybody wants to say against gay marriage and abortion. i believe we have to remember

the whole concept of religious freedom, and let everybody decide who they want to be, without being persecuted. >> got about three minutes left. stephanie. >> you said earlier that the republicans -- speaker boehner -- first, what is the status of your relationship with the leadership now, who are were the people you talked to? did you talk to cantor or mitch mcconnell? and secondly, given where we find ourselves and how there seems to be some effort by republicans, at least on the debt ceiling to avert that find, going double down on the budget side. what do you want to see happen? do you think there needs to be more conciliatory attitude with the white house or do you think the kind of attitude we have seen in the past has done good thing knows party. >> this, again, is a classic

example our the democrats so much more doning to think the rum runs are obstructionist and aren't being cooperative. when president obama says he wanted balanced approach he gets pass incrises but the payroll tax is inconstituted. but what happens to spending cuts? how much spending cuts have been put on the table he accused the republicans of not want agency balanced approach and then the revenues are increased for go, where the spending cuts? i can't believe the success they have in turning the tables where they're the ones who don't want to have balanced approach. how much spending cuts have we gotten? i want to say -- >> the question is -- to go forward, the republicans? >> i'm sorry. >> the sequester -- >> i didn't answer your question completely because i don't take

to these billionaires because i don't know them. i grew up in wisconsin, 5,000 people. the towns around me were so mall my contemporaries thought they left in a town called resume speed. the guys i hunted with in high school and i don't know that many millionaires and billionaires because i just love my friends the way they are. but i think what should happen is all us should get together and as a great lakes around this table, say would we borrow money from china to send one million dollars of artwork scattered through zoos? then we come counsel the list item by item. i did come to boehner's defense when he delayed the vote on the sandy, because i said, 64% of that will never be spent for two years. it wasn't for the sandy victims. the budget control act says you cannot put money into the budget without taking something out. but a relief act is not subject

to budget control, so the administration dumped on all these things. $15 million to plant tree on private property, 5-point' p billion for army corps of engineers which is in excess of their entire annual budget with no idea where it's going to be spend. mitigating future disasters? so a fact only a small portion of that actually went to sandy victims. what was an example of a profile in courage. why could dewant to put all this pork on here and make the american enemy spend money where we're in a deep hole and that's getting back to, how do we help president obama not become the president that bankrupted america? we have to cut expenses and if we went went around the table and within through the budget, there's many, many things that each of us would not bore roy money from china if they were still lehning it -- lending it to us. so i put out a very simple listing of things we should cut, including maybe 5% from planned parenthood, maybe 5% from the

national public radio, maybe other departments, department of education by 1%, through attrition, there's 75,000 jobs that are now filled. we shouldn't fill them. and then as people retire, re we don't fill those jobs jobs so gs hurt. you see the cost of living adjustment, to make it more real, that would reduce a whole out lot of our budget that doesn't need to be there the cola is adjusted on certain -- we all know what has happened the cost of housing. has it gone up? no. so why do we still have these adjustments of social security, keep ratcheting up the social security payments. we know it's broke. i want to use these numbers one more time. if you take eight years off the government numbers, you have an how hold 21,000 does, pending $38,000 and $142,000 credit card debt. so women down in washington, dc

said we're going to cut that budget. you know what okay cut it by? $385. so you're the ones going to pay the price for this. i'm home free. if i want to buy $84,000 america america, so i go to my dealer and she says, sign here. he said your credit card is maxed0. you can't buy a mercedes. i said, don't worry. i have a ten-year-old grandson and i'm going to put it on his credit card. okay, you got the car. that's what we're doing right here with the u.s. government and you're going to pay the price, not me. >> on that hopeful note, we thank -- it's a great day tomorrow. we're at a turning point in our country where i have sewn so many responses, how to bring people in different political perspectives together to agree on. the divisiveness has been -- it's artificial, our campaign is five times more effective,

positive campaign so let's make sure we are all positive. whatever is good, whatever is true, whatever i rice, deserve ago praise, dwell on these things. that's how to make the world a better place by making america better. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. [inaudible conversations] s >> tonight, highlights of the inauguration. the arrival at church service and then the inauguration, including the swearing in and the president's speech. followed the be luncheon at the capitol. the president began the day at st. john's episcopal church in washington. here's the president's motorcade

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[background sounds] [inaudible conversations] ladies and gentlemen, the chief justice of the united states and the associates of the supreme court of the united states. [inaudible conversations]

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ladies and gentlemen, please stand as the color guard compromised of members of each of our national forces represents our national colors. ♪ ♪

♪ ladies and gentlemen, the 39th president of the united states, jimmy carter and mrs. rosalyn carter. ♪

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[cheers and applause] ladies and gentlemen, the daughters of the president, maleah obama and sasha obama. [cheers and applause] ♪

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